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Old 08-18-2004, 12:55 PM   #11
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I'm sorry you signed up with them, too. But what do they mean you can't transfer for six months? ICANN policy says you can do so after 30 days so why are they preventing your clients, against ICANN policy, from transferring your domain name? See what I mean? They do WHATEVER they want, and ICANN has NO teeth to bite them in the butt. Like I said, class action lawsuit!

TopHosts.com must have some monetary arrangement with Aplus.net that keeps them from being honest about this company. Time for a little investigative journalism....

In the meantime, I encourage those who have been BURNED by Aplus.net a/k/a Names4ever.com to go to bigclassactions.com and complete a form requesting an attorney review the issue. The more of us who do this, the more likely a suit will be filed against them for violation of the California Unfair Competition Law. In fact, I'm talking to a lawyer out there on another story. I'm going to ask her some questions about this.
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Old 08-18-2004, 11:58 PM   #12
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I am having the same trouble with my host but my problem is that I can't change hosts and move my stuff because they have my sql database on their server, which THEY screwed up when they "upgraded" and now my site looks like crap. I can no longer upload to my site, access the database or anything. I don't know anythng about databases as I just created my site using html and hired someone to do my sql database. It was working great for about 6 months, then the host upgraded their servers and my database is all messed up.. I have emailed til Im blue in the face and they keep saying "they are working on the issue and it will be fixed within 24 hours" I've been getting this autosponder since March. Does anyone know how to move a database from their server to another server if I were to get another host? Funny thing is my sister uses my login info and can upload to my site, but I can't- it says something about port 80 or proxy settings error. Can anyone help me here?
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Old 10-25-2004, 12:27 PM   #13
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Okay guys

This is what I came up with............

But first.

A couple of months back, I had the occassion to discover that a **** site had one of my department links written into one of their pages and it was pointed to a **** site via a slick little cookie function.
I looked and looked to get it resolved and in the end, I went to the server above this guy to get it resolved.

Any way, by the total IP's, I was able to determine that SITELEADER.COM; worldwidedomain.com; & netinfra.com* Boulder CO (303-447-2496) are all the same guy.
Running on a reseller level partition with the big boys, who, in the end are, "Interland".

Interland is located in Atlanta, Georgia, where alot of the Grand-Daddy mains are as far as servers go, right along with Earthlink and others. Interland pipes the goods to a lesser or satellite server in Colorado, (Verio; Net Infrastructure) which is where this Hokey-Doke outfit is running his shared server lease.
Chances are that the domain name in question was written into a group account at the real registrar and can't be pushed out without his release of the name.
Our registration process has a group account with register.com and if I were to try and push any of the names out of it, it would cost me some money, because that's how it works. This guy is most likely broke and doesn't want to spend the money to release the name from the account.

I think that if you were to get in touch with Interland, and let them in on what this guy (SITELEADER; netinfra.com; worldwidedomain.com) is doing, they may be able to lend an assist.

The reason why I am mentioning this as a possible fix is that through my ****o deal a few months back, I discovered that the SH*** rolls down hill. Alias nameservers or not, the parents of these redundant servers really don't care at all for these kinds of things to happen.

Interland is in direct control of the servers in question, just like, for instance, EV1 is in control of their redundant servers located across the country.
And Earthlink runs Scratchy & Itchy all the way from Antlanta to Pasadena

You may want to get in touch with Interland on this one:
101 Marietta Street
Atlanta GA
30039
1-678-365-2830
hostmaster@internet-dns.net
(they do have the power to turn this guy off)

Interland also rides herd on "Verio"
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Old 10-25-2004, 12:44 PM   #14
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As I usually do with the boards, I post, and then I read.....Tough nuts Huh?

Anyhow, I would like to offer to help some of you guys with regard to any domain names held hostage by the hosting goonies out there.

In that, I can run a push through our registrar group account with whatever domain name I have in order to possibly free it up for you. Even if there is a registrar lock involved, chances are, that with "a known" usie and pass, We might be able to just pluck the darn thing from one account to the other. And once that's done, you can get your name back. Wouldn't be the first time we've ever done that for someone. I'm sure, especially in this business, it wont be the last.

Just a thought
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:55 AM   #15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mmello
A new customer asked me to move his site to a new web host. The existing site (SITELEADER.COM) will not respond to requests and have changed the p***word so I can't update the site or change the DNS. The hosting account is paid up to date, but I can't get a response from accounting as to the terms and expiration.. what is my recourse, if any, to get them to respond? They have no address or phone number online, just a PO box in their domain registration. Is there a body somewhere to govern web hosts?
Looks like those guys where resellers for enom , which means that you could contact enom directly and try to get controll of your clients domain, and as soon as you have that you can change the name servers to the new host !


Anyway, this is what I found :

DOMAINMISER.COM


Image updated 2004-08-23
Website Title: Domain Name Registration and Website Hosting Services
Meta Description: Register for your own domain name and have a working website quickly and easily
Meta Keywords: Domain Name Registration, Website hosting, e-mail addresses, Internic. netname web site virtual hosting
Response Code: 206
SSL Cert: No valid SSL on this Host, Get Secure
Server Type: Apache/1.3.28 (Unix) FrontPage/5.0.2.2634 PHP/4.3.2 mod_ssl/2.8.15 OpenSSL/0.9.7a (Spry.com also uses Apache)
IP Address: 64.40.6.149 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: - California - Orange - Accelenet Internet Services
Record Type: Domain Name
Monitor: Monitor or Backorder
Wildcard search: 'domainmiser' or 'domain miser' in all domains.
Other TLDs: .com .net .org .info .biz .us
X [5 available domains]

Name Server: NS1.SITELEADER.NET NS2.SITELEADER.NET
ICANN Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Created: 13-jan-2000
Expires: 13-jan-2006
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:58 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by Silky
I am having the same trouble with my host but my problem is that I can't change hosts and move my stuff because they have my sql database on their server, which THEY screwed up when they "upgraded" and now my site looks like crap. I can no longer upload to my site, access the database or anything. I don't know anythng about databases as I just created my site using html and hired someone to do my sql database. It was working great for about 6 months, then the host upgraded their servers and my database is all messed up.. I have emailed til Im blue in the face and they keep saying "they are working on the issue and it will be fixed within 24 hours" I've been getting this autosponder since March. Does anyone know how to move a database from their server to another server if I were to get another host? Funny thing is my sister uses my login info and can upload to my site, but I can't- it says something about port 80 or proxy settings error. Can anyone help me here?

Sounds like we need a new thread called
THE WORST HOSTS on the WEB
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